User talk:GianG

Welcome
Greetings, GianG! Welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Training scores page. I hope you enjoy it here and decide to stay.

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Excuse me? I am rollbacking your edits because those images are of way too poor quality, they look like they have been taken by phone on a tv screen (which I suspect they might even be). And you have the moxy to message me about vandalism? A lot of users have had to have edit wars with you, because you in the past have added fanon names to Tributes, and images with horrible quality and is not fit to be in an article. On the contrary, I think it is safe to assume that you should be messages this template.

I´m going to message admin Rainbow Shifter about this issue if it continues.

Hi
Please listen to the warnings which these users are giving you. They are trying to help you so that you stop making some of the mistakes which you are doing on these pages. Also please do not remove messages from your talk page, particularly warnings. 16:28, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

Odds
Even if the odds are random, which we do not know because we don't know most of the actual training scores, only what people presume them to be, the fact that the District 8 male was killed by Marvel would not mean he was overestimated. Marvel could simply have been stronger then him.

You list the District 6 male as being stronger but we do not know whether or not he would have been killed by Marvel as quickly as the 8 male was or if he would defeat the District 8 male because they did not fight. This could simply be a matter of fighting opponents with different strength and skill levels and not a saying on how strong a particular tribute was.

And finally, listing people as overestimated and undervalued are subjective and opinions, not concrete information. This wiki is for information we know from the books and movies. The movie gives the District 8 male high odds, saying he is skilled enough to be given such odds. Nowhere do we know that he is not up to that level beyond comparing him to tributes who fought different tributes under different circumstances. LightStone123 (talk) 18:47, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

The District 8 male was a FAVOURITE tribute too, according to the odds. He was actually favoured higher then Marvel. And whether or not he was intelligent has no bearing on whether he was overestimated or not.LightStone123 (talk) 18:51, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, but I'm not arguing that he is more intelligent then he is. I'm simply stating that the District 8 male isn't shown to be overestimated. Their odds have nothing to do with their intelligence either, unless that was the thing they were showcasing, which I do not believe was the case for either tribute here. LightStone123 (talk) 19:05, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what his odds should be, it only matters what they actually are, which is 3-1. Also, the Gamemakers do not create the odds. They are decided by who the people in the Capital are betting on and how heavily. In turn, the betting is largely influenced by a tributes training score. Since the District 8 males odds are so high, it stands to reason that he received a high training score, despite his injured leg. LightStone123 (talk) 19:57, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Not to be rude but I really didn't understand what you were trying to say. The random didn't influence the scores? What?

I'll  just respond to what I think you said: I didn't say anything influenced the scores. I said that the scores influenced the ODDS which they do. LightStone123 (talk) 20:45, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Well then, we still have no proof that he was overestimated or that he received a low score. Honestly, I don't know why the training score page lists any scores other then the ones we know for fact. It's mostly just people putting what they feel like each tribute should have received.

Not that I'm blaming you for that. This has been going on for a long while and I don't know if you're even apart of it. It just annoys me, especially since people keep changing them to what they feel is best and then having edit wars over it. LightStone123 (talk) 20:56, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Honestly, basing the scores based off what happened in the arena is a terrible idea and doesn't make sense. That would imply the Gamemakers knew how well each tribute would do, which obviously isn't the case because Peeta got an 8. Also, it would omit the fact that the tributes could have shown different skills that might not have had anything to do with how they fared. Example: Rue was not strong but she had the skill of moving between trees and got a 7 for it. Any of the other tributes could have had a skill like that and gotten a higher score then their actual strength level. Also, it would just be an opinion and guesswork, which doesn't adhere to what the wiki is about. LightStone123 (talk) 16:37, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, you've properly made your point. I can concede that the District 8 male was overvalued for being tied for the highest odds. LightStone123 (talk) 16:49, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. It was nice having this conversation, it's been awhile since I've had a prolonged discussion with someone regarding the Hunger Games and I thank you for both taking the time for this and for being so reasonable. LightStone123 (talk) 16:54, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Wrong evidence I would like to point out
You know those images of the corpses at the end of the bloodbath, well I figured out that the first corpse was of the District 8 Male, the second of the District 10 male's extra death, the next one that is wrong is actually the District 5 Male not the District 10 male, while the first corpse is of the D8 male not the D6 Male, if you see the "Hunger games, casting of tributes." Clip, if you can find it. There is a shot of Marvel killing the 8 boy, now when he begins to suffocate you can see he turns his head to the side. Which is where the first corpse had the head turned. While the District 10 Male had blood slashed on his chest rather than a hole dug into his chest. Hope this helped. :)

--HaraiGoshi345 (talk) 21:10, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

District 10 and 5 male
Really ?!, the corps are mixed up ? Wow I did not know that. If it is true, I have to say the male tribute with the grey colored jacket looks more like the District 10 male and the one with the Plum red jacket looks more like the District 5 male.

Not to be racist, but don't you think it's wierd that half of the male tributes are asian and latino ? I think this is what sparked the controversy.

Plus the District 9 male in the film, was no where to be described of what he actually looked like in the novel. Rue and Thresh are exactly what I imagined, but the District 4 male I visualized he would be the same age as his district partner. (Some of the male tributes are ugly too). 99.183.236.142 21:10, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's the District 4 male.