User talk:TagAlongPam

Vandalism
I'd just like to report someone for vandalising many pages on this wiki. They're just a contributer but here's the link to their page: http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.189.103.78. I wasn't sure to report this or not but I'm jsut letting you know. But I've fixed everything :) Shadow Seer 22:14, April 1, 2012 (UTC)Shadow Seer

Yes i have something along the same lines, the page of president snow seems to be a little messed up and if its not now i guess someone already fixed it just thought i would let you know XD The Night The King of randomness Stands here! 19:23, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

nvm someone changed it back srry about that  The Night The King of randomness Stands here! 19:29, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

delete
can u delete these blogs please pam. Thanks :)

http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Prezziesnow9704:)!/PREZZIESNOWS_THIRD_HUNGER_GAMES:_PART_2

http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Prezziesnow9704:)!/Tribute_Top_Trumps

thanks again Prezziesnow9704:)! 12:39, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Problems with the Contemporary Mods
Hello, TagAlongPam. Around 6:30 EST, one of the former chat moderators, Milly N. Hodgins, kickbanned me for no reason at all, holding past problems between us against me, and even told me that she was banning me just because I came in the chat room. I don't think that Milly is worthy of her chat moderator power, and should be taken away from it, for abusing her power. Not only that, but the mods (KEAP and Milly) are "arguing" over who should kickban me first. Also, on hungerlive.wikia.com, people from The Hunger Games Wiki start purposely trolling and spamming, which is immature. I just think you should be cautious of your newest mods. And also, in the other wiki's chat, people from your wiki were harrassing and making fun of a suicidal user, which is against the law and considered bullying. Just think about it, if I called the police on these kids, they would be sent to juvenile school. Here's some evidence :

Actually, I just have to say something, you were a lot more than annoying to us in before, but you left before we could kickban you.............

Also, you were being really arrogant and annoying, and a lot of users were asking in PM if you could be kickbanned. I was sort of away at that time, but I think that if a lot of users had a problem with you, then it probably was a problem.

In addition, things that happen on that wiki should stay on that wiki. If you think we were causing problems, just ban us as you see fit. Plus, the only reason you were ever on here was to call us immature.



Ok. I understand. But I just want to let you know, that I was sticking up for my friend because she had called Milly N. Hodgins names and I didn't think that was right. Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 23:53, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Haybernathy wasn't on and your are never on chat. And it wouldn't have helped anyways by snitching on them because that just gets people more mad and makes them dislike you even more.Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 23:59, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Alright.... :/

Well I was sticking up for a friend which is what my parents raised me to do. If one of my friends is being bullied I stand up for them. And they were acting rude towards my friend so I did to them what they did to her. And I'm sorry and please don't get angry at me for saying this but anything you cannot change what I think. I will always stand up for my friends. If someone said something rude about you (even thought we're not really friends) I would certainly stick up for you because you are some of my friends friends....if that even makes any sense. But I understand that my behavior was bad and I will not do it again and I understand why you banned me and I will not argue with that.Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 00:10, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Quick question
Hi there! I was wondering: do we follow the realm of the book or the recently released movie? Many times articles switch between the two and it can be quite confusing. There are quite a few differences between the book and the flim too, some minor, some major, but I think it'll be best if it were established which one this wiki generally follows. Care to shed some light on this for me? Thanks. - SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 22:38, April 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think your option 1 would work best under most circumstances. I guess the new movie has boosted traffic on this wiki like crazy, eh? Hopefully later the information can be organised in a clearer manner. I'm an admin at the Fallout Wiki, and since there isn't a new game coming out for a while, things are generally quieter there. So I think I plan to contribute here quite a bit. I'm good with general maintenance and editing matters, so please give me a shout if you need anything. I'd be glad to help with the workload. - SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 01:16, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hi TAP
Hi TAP. I was wondering if perhaps you could consider me for a chat moderator or possibly an admin :) Please refer to my paragraph on the official page if you need more info about my contributions! :) that HATHAWAY  runaway~  02:02, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Chat problems
That certainly is very disappointing to see. I'll think it through about whether or not to take away the concerning user's mods. I'm a little interested in knowing what actually happened, though. So I'll talk to KEAP and Milly about that. I know a lot of trouble has been going down on both hungerlive and here, and am quite frankly sick of it. 02:31, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry and I COMPLETELY understand why I've gotten my mod taken away for the time being. I'll also understand if I don't get it back. What I did was NOT right. But posting those few lyrics was the only spamming I did. And I didn't agree to them kickbanning her. I hadn't even realized that they did. Once again I'm sorry and I understand what I did wrong and that I should NOT do it again.

I'm a dragon... RAWR! or Anneliese a.k.a. Annie a.k.a. the awesome one a.k.a. the one with the awesome sig a.k.a. her royal highness a.k.a. queen of the universe aka Iluvgale

Question
Should the articles move toward the knowledge given in the books or the movie primarily? There's been some speculation about Foxface's name being mentioned in the movie, but since it wasn't mentioned in the book, should we go with the movie or book reference? 17:07, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

There is no Manual of Style on this wiki, but it is one of the topics that an MoS could cover. BrokenSphere (Talk) 19:47, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Our mods
I've messaged Johanna and asked her to tell me what happened. She has, and I'm rather ashamed. I can give you the email, if you want to see it. I'd let Annie keep her mod (because even Johanna admits she was not that bad and disruptive), but KEAP and Milly, I think, should have their mod taken away. I think some of the things said to the other wiki were disgusting and rude. It is, in a way, cyber bullying. 19:15, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree 100 percent for KEAP, because I've even seen the screencaps to prove that he did wrong. However, Milly has been banned on that chat for a month now so I know that some of the things said in that email were true. I'll send it now, though. 04:23, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Re
You're welcome! I've been doing periodical edit-checking to maintain the quality of articles and improve them. Apart from Wikia's policies, are there any specific to this wiki? - SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 22:58, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Pam...
Hi Pam, how are you? I'm back for about 3 days, so I'll come on occasionally and say hi :) I don't know why they think they have the right to be mean on another wiki, or, in other words, The "PieClub" wiki. Milly N. Hodgens said that my prescence is not allowed on that wiki's chat, even though I did nothing wrong, I only came on. I don't think that she should do that. Skyandbray was speaking about religion. He was saying he was Jesus. And some of us including me found that insulting. Skyandbray and Millie basically chased me off that chat. I don't think that was very good of them, especially Millie who should know better because she has chat moderator rights.

Hope all is well

05:50, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no doubt in my mind that what they did was wrong, but what has that got anything to do with this wiki? The chat was created so that the users kickbanned for two days could still communicate with their friends, and if they don't want you there, then what's wrong with that? If you find it insulting, then talk to him about it in private message. 05:57, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * They can't invite me to another wiki just to insult me. Skyandbray gave me the link, inviting me to their chat so they could openly insult me. This is a form of cyberbullying, as far as I'm concerned, and it's against the rules. I think Millie should lose her chat moderator rights. A chat moderator shouldn't think it's okay to insult people on other wikis, but not the wiki she's a chat mod on. A good chat moderator would follow the same rules on other wikis that s/he does on this wiki. They invited me there and insulted me, swore the f word at me several times, and told me to get off. Keap posted several links in my pm to tell me what he thinks of me. I looked at the first one and I didn't like it. It was a little innapropriate. I think that Millie should get her mod removed, and they should be taught a lesson, by maybe a wiki ban. This isn't the first time they've done it either. I've heard they've done it to 2 other users. Skyandbray was insulting religions, Millie was swearing at me. I don't think this is appropriate chat mod behavior of her. A good chat mod wouldn't think it was okay to just go to another wiki and fire cuss words at people. 14:22, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oblivion, I did not link you what I thought of you. I just wanted to ask if i could post those links to them, and they're intended to be a little bit gross, but overall funny. I don't know what Skyandbray and Milly were doing, since I wasn't really paying attention, just throwing in a random comment sometimes, but if you were insulted by it, we're all sorry.


 * Hi TAP (and Oblivion). I would like to set some things straight, so hear me out. First of all, the wiki we were on is a wiki that allows certain things that this wiki doesn't (like cussing). I think that I should be able to swear on a wiki that allows it (especially a wiki I'm an admin on). Oblivion, Im terribly sorry if I offended you by my swearing, it just seems like you are out to get every other chat mod on this wiki that may offend you in any way. I certainly didn't just want to fire cuss words at you because I could. I was merely frustrated at certain things that were happening. I don't like you, but that doesn't mean I want to insult you with cuss words every chance I get. I'm SO sorry if you took it that way. A whole wiki ban is absolutely unnecesarry. I did NO harm to this wiki, rather, offended one user unintentionally on another wiki. I promise that I will not allow my frustration to get the better of me causing users to be offended. I will be more cautious with my words in the future even on other wikis. I deserve to be a chat moderator here. I understand if you want to remove my chat mod rights, TAP, and I respect your decision whatever it is. But honestly, removing me of my rights would be a loss. For example, the other day chat was an absolute MADHOUSE and I was the only mod there for about 3-4 hours. I had to kickban many users for various legitimate reasons (sockpuppetry, death threats, etc.) Please consider these things, and Oblivion, once again, I am SO sorry :(


 * Hi I'm Milly and I love pie. 18:42, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Forum:Is the wiki's focus getting too social? thread
Hi,

I decided to use the Forum as the venue for this discussion in order to get more user input. Maybe that wasn't such a good idea since it has gotten lost in the activity on the wiki, but is an appropriate place for discussion. I am bringing it to your attention as the senior admin as I am trying to start a dialog on the current level of social activity on the wiki vs. actual activity on content, whether or not that is something that is desirable and should be allowed to continue, or needs to be redirected elsewhere. I would like to keep the discussion in the thread, so I would appreciate it if you respond there, as this message is just a heads up. Thanks. BrokenSphere (Talk) 18:20, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

So unfortunately this is not a new issue. However do you feel that it would be better to let the situation stand as it is and proliferate? I think a cancer analogy is apt here. I agree with you that making the change will likely be long, difficult and painful. Call me an optimist, but I also feel that it can done, but slowly and surely, just like eating an elephant: one bite at a time. For example, the wiki is currently using the basic Wikia policies and does not have its own specific ones covering things such as Image use and a Manual of Style. What could be done is that for the sake of tightening things up in order to give users some guidance and also deal with the increased attention the franchise is receiving is to start creating and rolling out wiki specific polices one at a time so there is gradual change. This way there are now some guidelines and expectations for prospective and new users to see and follow. Otherwise they are modeling less constructive behavior so the wiki keeps getting more of the same activity. When these policies are clear and enforced, users will start to get the message and will change their behavior accordingly. If they don't like it, then they can leave and do the same thing elsewhere. Users are going to get lost this way but the wiki is now positioned to attract the serious ones who will not mess around and the readers who are not editing will appreciate this. I'm not sure how I can help things out beyond what I'm doing now, but let me know if there is. BrokenSphere (Talk) 19:04, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Concerning Oblivion
I remember when Oblivion said to me that no matter how much I may offend her, she will never let it get to her. And now, she comes crying to you, asking you to remove my rights. What is this? I wasn't swearing in order to bully her. And I don't know what was going on between her and KEAP. She doesn't come on chat very much anymore, so what we were saying to her at the PieClub Wiki didn't effect the atmosphere over at this wiki's chat.

Hi I'm Milly and I love pie. 19:23, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * What behavior exactly?


 * Hi I'm Milly and I love pie. 22:21, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * You and Skyand bray bullied me until I felt like crying, Millie. I don't want this to be taken lightly. 04:54, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hi
You're a coowl admin (:

100th comment/ Justafox-

Stupid
Lol, I'm stupid, this is the 100th comment.

Hi, i am here regarding my friends, Keap, ILuvGale, and milly. I understand why they where banned, but as a friend, i think it is unfair just becuz someone says it happened, does not always mean it happened unless u have proof. Milly should not lose admin over this, it is not here fault. they are good ppl, trust me, I KNOW.

Sincerly,

SilentStabb


 * Silentstabb, there WAS proof, so yea......we were rightly kickbanned and I feel pretty bad about it :/.



Sockpuppeting...
On chat a user, catoishot admitted to being a sockpuppet. I'm not quite sure what to do so here's some pictures.



I'm a dragon... RAWR! or Anneliese a.k.a. Annie a.k.a. the awesome one a.k.a. the one with the awesome sig a.k.a. her royal highness a.k.a. queen of the universe aka Iluvgale

Twilight Saga Wikia
Hey Pam, I think you remeber me from the Twilight Saga and I was blocked until April 6th. Well today is April 6th and Dee has'nt unblocked me. Can you do it?

Chrys 11:58, April 6, 2012 (UTC) Carlos Los Davis

Can you

Chrys 16:14, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

The 'Am I Pretty?' blog
I was wondering if this blog could be deleted. It seems really off topic and it seems a major source of rude, unkind, and bullyish comments. I don't kno if that can happen since it's a blog but can something be done? It just doesn't seem like a good thing to have on a wiki.

Thanks:)

Shadow Seer 20:40, April 6, 2012 (UTC)Shadow Seer

This sort of thing is also asking for violations of The Hunger Games Wiki:No personal attacks and is not even remotely related to THG. Broken Sphere (Talk 20:49, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

I'd also like to report this contributer for personal attacks, and telling someone to commit suicide.

This the link to their profile since they're not a registered user: http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.216.67.239

You can see what they put on the Am I Pretty blog.

Shadow Seer 21:54, April 6, 2012 (UTC)Shadow Seer

Twilight chat
Thanks for unblocking me! But I can't chat! HELP!

Chrys 23:59, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Inappropriate info on blog
I feel like some of this blog is REALLY inappropriate. I'd like to know what you think. http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Silentstabb/The_Victor_Games

I'm a dragon... RAWR! or Anneliese a.k.a. Annie a.k.a. the awesome one a.k.a. the one with the awesome sig a.k.a. her royal highness a.k.a. queen of the universe aka Iluvgale

They changed it so it's not so inappropriate but this is what it used to be http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Silentstabb/The_Victor_Games?diff=228697&oldid=227835

I'm a dragon... RAWR! or Anneliese a.k.a. Annie a.k.a. the awesome one a.k.a. the one with the awesome sig a.k.a. her royal highness a.k.a. queen of the universe aka Iluvgale

Lets make "User of the month" official
Hi, i would like to create user of the month, a blogg that makes someone user of the month and is treated special, now the rules are, u or haybernathy pick a responsible person each month (btw im doing april) to collect nominee's on chat using PM and putting the nominee's on a blogg and let people vote in the comments till a spesific time, and the winner is treated royally. so please, can we make it official!?

sincerly,

Silentstabb 03:46, April 7, 2012 (UTC)SilentstabbSilentstabb 03:46, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Blog Policy
Hey TAP! I was browsing around this wiki recently, and I saw some blogs with some....unusual content inside. I was thinking maybe we could have a blog policy? Like limiting what can be put on a blog? I don't know what we could really put as the policy, since this wiki isn't strict about it, but it could be a starting thought :).

A Hater
Someone has been posting rude things on my talk, and they even made an accont (http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/User:IH8Gale%27sGirl?&cb=660) and they are insulting me. Can you please talk to them or something? They are realling hurting my feelings, and I'm afraid they'll be mean to other users too. Thanks a million! GaleGaleGaleGaleGale!!!!! Katniss can HAVE Peeta. GALE IZ MINE!!!!!! (what? normal people are in love with fictional characters!) 14:15, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Scavenger Hunt
What exactly do we do in the scavenger hunt?

Srish3211 16:55, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind my earlier message about Scavenger hunts, I figured it out now :] sorry for bothering you.

Srish3211 17:47, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Chat
Could you come on chat? i would love to meet you, -Justafox-

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyAudrajoye 00:55, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

A question
I have a quick question.... I was nominated for chat mod and accepted, and i was wondering if there was anything i needed to do? Thanks in advance! I didn&#39;t fall..... the floor needed a hug! :D 01:01, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Ban
I accidently banned Carlos Los Davis, and Italcos. My sister thought to be funny and banned Thejman63 on chat, I hope you can unban them. And I'm deeply sorry, -Justafox.

Ps; I banned them because the ipad made PM and kickban up.

Chat
Hey Pam! Its Chrys ( Carlos) and I wanted to say can you help me? Justafox wanted to PM me on chat and he accidently kickbanned me. Now he and Gale's girl said the duration is 1 min, but its not working! HELP!

Chrys 15:08, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hi...this person User:Catoandclove is spamming really badly. Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 21:53, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I think I know you
Just saying hello. Didn't know you were an admin here too. Lucky Timothy 22:49, April 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, took a chance on the series and enjoyed the books and the film. I think I will actually get to edit here more since there is something to actually edit. Not really any editing left to do on the Twilight wiki. Lucky Timothy 03:20, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Spam On My Games
Here is the link to my games. Marvel4 posted this crud TWICE on my user games, and I am eally angey. I mean, I get pretty excited when I get comments, andthis is spam, and a big let down. I just thought you'd like to know, maybe make sure the user knows what they did wrong? (Link: http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Gale%27s_Girl/The_1st_Hunger_Games?s=wl#article-comments)


 * Thanks for fixing my games!!!!!!--I didn&#39;t fall..... the floor needed a hug! :D 15:22, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Wiki Navigation/css
Hey there, I noticed with the wiki navigation on the "locations" tab, it features certain districts, but not the entire amount, so on my test wiki I somewhat organised the locations tab.

On a side note, I was thinking there could be links to an Administrator/Rollback/Chat mod page on the "On the Wiki" tab. Its not possible through the navigation editor, but there is an excellent css code that allows us to customize that one tab.

I thought I'd bring this up, since I feel the wiki navigation is somewhat neglected. I also think there should be a quite sufficient page listing Administrators, Rollbacks, and Chat Moderators, so it is easier to come in contact with them. I could create/put together a page like that for you if you wanted :)

Thanks,

Lunix68 Talk 18:39, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppets
Im so sorry to bother u again but that person i told u about yesterday User:Catoandcloveareboss made a sockpuppet called catoandcloveareboss1. Milly kickbanned her from chat because she continued to spam and she didn't know that she was a sockpuppet. Then after that she made anther account called Guess what...ME! Again. Sorry there are no links but when i tried it came up red because the accounts are brand new.Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 20:27, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Top 10 list for deletion
Top 10 list:Jabber jay blue 211 for obvious reasons. I can't tag it for normal deletion. Thanks. Broken Sphere (Talk 20:40, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Top 10 list:Should you sterilize the needle for a lethal injection? Thanks. Broken Sphere (Talk 19:10, April 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for helping me try to get the wiki as well-oiled as possible. 9K+ images for just over 300 pages of content is a bit a much but as long as they're used instead of floating around in the void that works for me. Broken Sphere  (Talk 22:49, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

I've been given a resposibility by a fellow user, but...
Hey. I'm just saying something that I've been having a bit of trouble with. A fellow user who I've become aquaintances with, has a blog post, and I really liked it and asked if she would add onto it. She gave me the sole responsibility of being her editor, and she said I could add onto it, but not erase anything she wrote. One day I tried to add on but I couldn't find an edit button. Thanks! TheKatnissEverdeen 21:46, April 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up. I'll tell her. TheKatnissEverdeen 21:53, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Finished
Hello again, I finished working on the Chat Moderator page, and the admin page, I also added a link to the Chat Moderator page on the ChatBan Template.

I didn't know if you wanted the mediawiki for the location nav setup, so here it is, incase you wanted to add it, this is for the entire location set, so you would need to replace the location tab with the following


 * Category:Places|Locations
 * Panem
 * Category:Districts|Districts 1-6
 * District 1
 * District 2
 * District 3
 * District 4
 * District 5
 * District 6
 * Category:Districts|Districts 6-13
 * District 7
 * District 8
 * District 9
 * District 10
 * District 11
 * District 12
 * District 13
 * District 13

Thanks, Lunix68 Talk 01:21, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry!
Sorry I haven't relied in so long. I'm moving house, so I rarely get a chance to use the internet. I'll be back to normal editing on Friday (New Zealand time). I agree with what you said (with also sometimes seeing it myself), and I personally think she doesn't actually see what she's done wrong. KEAP has, and he's apologised. He's accepted the fact that what he's done is wrong, which I think is very good about him. The only reason why I'd be reluctant to remove Milly's mod is that she's usually the only mod on at about mid-day, so she's really the only one to keep chat civil (though now Justafox is a mod and that time is his evening). I think we should also see what Necterine thinks. 03:30, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll have a think about it. I know that if chat is disabled, a lot of users will be upset. 23:15, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Chat
Hello, again. I just thought I'd let you know that no chat moderators were on chat, and a huge fight broke out, and there has been non-stop name-calling, swearing, and very vulgar language engulfing the chat.

Just thought I'd let you know, :) Lunix68 Talk 20:03, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Wikia.css
Hello, again, haha. I've been working on a set of codes for the MediaWiki:Wikia.css, which in my opinion, somewhat helps the wiki's theme.

Alright, heres what I did.
 * Bureaucrats, Admins, Wikia Staff & Helpers, and bots, have distinctive link colors, so in wiki activity it is easy to identify them.
 * The modules have rounded borders, and so do avatars.
 * The wiki footer (I.e: Follow, My tools, Customize ) has a texture on it similar to the book cover.
 * A better search button ( has a red border, rounded, etc )
 * A small 2px red border around the content area.
 * Rounded user tabs ( i.e: Userpage, talk pages, blog, contributions, etc )
 * And a few more smaller edits.

I'd appreciate it, if you just looked at it to see if you like it. :)

It is all on this page. <font face="X-Files" color="darkred">Lunix68 <font face="Terminator Two" color="darkgreen">Talk 02:16, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

RE;
Sure, you need to make a page called User:TagAlongPam/wikia.css and copy everything in this page, then reload and it'll show all the changes. :) <font face="X-Files" color="darkred">Lunix68 <font face="Terminator Two" color="darkgreen">Talk 02:37, April 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Your welcome, I could change the border to another color if you want, and I think the name problem might just be on your part, since I can see it fine. But I'll take another look into that. - Is it going to be added to MediaWiki:Wikia.css so its visible across the full wiki, and what color would you like the border to be?
 * <font face="X-Files" color="darkred">Lunix68 <font face="Terminator Two" color="darkgreen">Talk 02:55, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

I changed the border color to a dark gold color :) The wiki css is here.<font face="X-Files" color="darkred">Lunix68 <font face="Terminator Two" color="darkgreen">Talk 03:15, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Chat
I've seen the messages relaying between you and Haybernathy. To me, it's a good and bad idea to remove chat from the wiki. It's true, there are many users just coming here just to chat. They create drama and swear and spam a lot, and I've been seeing more kick bans than usual. Otherwise, if you remove chat, about 90% or more of the wiki will leave. I see a good and bad thing in 99% of the wiki leaving. The good thing is that people won't say random blogs about lunaiis or Am I Pretty or other useless things. The bad part is, that if a billion people just leave suddenly, what will happen to the fun on the wiki?

Iluvgaleand to the people sitting next to me: I hope you don't mind screaming

This user could potentially leave the wiki! But it's your choice. I'm okay with any choice you go with. But I'm thinking that people would be banned from chat until they made dozens of pretty good edits.

FIGHTING! 03:59, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hey TAP
Well, my e-mail is flooded with talk page changes and (sorry for snooping) but most are of chat. I was wondering if we should have a meeting about it. I mean, I might not seem like it and I don't really help out on this Wiki but I really care about it even though I'm inactive. It might seem not really useful but it's a thought... :/ M i   k  08:58, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm back
I have returned! I just adore the new look of the wiki. Anyway, is there anything I missed while I was gone that I need to be made aware of? I did glance at you talk page before I wrote this (As a lot of important events show up on your talk page eventually), and saw something about removing chat. To be honest, I'm not against the idea. It's been causing uneeded drama. I remember when I first joined that chat wasn't anywhere near as popular, and people communicated through comments. It seemed to make users on the wiki closer, and because comments could be more easily looked back on there were less insults/spam from users because they knew there could be results of their actions. Maybe this isn't an issue anymore though. Tell me if there's any other news please. Necterine411  (talk* | fanon) 20:49, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Judging by the messages, what Milly did was very severe indeed, and at the very least she should be put on a probation sort of thing (in which she loses her rights if she continues with her behavior.) It has been a while since I saw the screencaps in question, and in the messages I saw something about an email? As taking away rights is something very serious, is there any way you could forward the email to wiki email? In the messages it sounded like it contained a lot of evidence, and I'd like to look at it before making a final judgement call, just to be secure in my decision. Necterine411  Questions? Comments? Concerns?  23:47, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

I heard you were thinking of getting rid of chat. I know it's not any of my business...well it kinda is cause i go on chat often. You really shouldn't. I dont know if it is true but from what people are telling me is that you want to get rid of it because all that goes on it drama. Well that is not at all what goes on during chat. Sure once in a while a new person will come on and think that they are all tough and they think that they can swear and stuff but with a couple hour ban they come back and are fine. And people are also saying that Oblivion and Johanna are telling you that all that goes on is drama. From every time that i have been on chat they have only been on once. When Johanna was on she came on from the whole drama that annie, keap, and me were banned for and Oblivion started drama when she came on. She was saying that she was done and it seemed like she was having a mental breakdown because she kept arguing and saying things that were showing that she was depressed or suicidal. Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 00:28, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Chat closing
I know that chat might be closing soon, so I thought that maybe you should come on the chat to see what it's really like. There's rarely drama, yes there's the occasional spammer, but there's usually a chat mod on. I just think that maybe sometime you should come on chat and kinda get to know the other users and see what the chat is really like. Thanks for your consideration.

I'm a dragon... RAWR! or Anneliese a.k.a. Annie a.k.a. the awesome one a.k.a. the one with the awesome sig a.k.a. her royal highness a.k.a. queen of the universe aka Iluvgale

So that's where the screenshots are. I could have sworn I looked here...must have missed them. I feel that considering the screenshots (the biggest factor), the email, and from what I understand of the events that happened, Milly's Chat Mod rights need to be taken away. It was a big decision I did not make lightly, but i feel like this is the course of action to take. Necterine411  Questions? Comments? Concerns?  02:31, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Concerning Chat
Hi TAP. I'm sure you probably don't want to read what I have to say but it would be HIGHLY appreciated. Everything that went down between me and Johanna is resolved, if you wanted to know. I KNOW I abused my rights in that situation and regret it. That is NOT chat mod behavior and I know that; I apologize from the bottom of my heart. Since then I haven't abused my rights here. Most of the users that come on chat regularly now can say (and have said) that I am a good chat mod. I can understand that you may think that only drama can come from the chat but that point of view is influenced only by the ones who complain about the drama that does occasionally occur. We never report to you about how GOOD that chat is, do we? You only hear about the bad things that go down, and that can make one who never visits chat have a distorted view of chat. If you keep chat, demoting me will only make chat worse. I am the only chat mod online A LOT during the day. I NEVER kickban without a legitimate reason and a warning. With chat, we need MORE mods. Without chat, well, I'm sorry if I ever was a part of the reason for disabling it. I'm sorry if I come off as whiny or arrogant, I just wanted to share my thoughts. Thank you.

Hi I'm Milly and I love pie. 03:03, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome :) Its a pleasure to edit here because its something we all love :) BowandArrows 05:07, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

More Wikia.css for the userpanel
Hello, after a hour of nickpicking, and going back and forth, I finally worked on a very good theme for userpanels. You can view it yourself by copying everything on this page into yours,or just look at the following picture :)



Thanks,<font face="X-Files" color="darkred">Lunix68 <font face="Terminator Two" color="darkgreen">Talk 05:32, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

I like the panel the way it is, please don't change it! The pearl ♥ I will always remember ♥ 05:51, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Closing chat.
I heard you, admins, are thinking about getting rid of chat. This is not a good decision. Most of the users, who are here, are here to chat AND EDIT. Yeah, sometimes there's drama, but that's everywhere. And the spammers. Yah we have chatmods, I'm trying to be as much on as I can. So if you do decide to get rid of chat, many users will leave. At least that's what I think, I hope this text may change your opinion.

Justafox 14:36, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Minimum time to delete an unused upload
What would you consider to be the minimum time after which an unused upload can be deleted? The shortest I have seen is 2 days (policy on the Bleach Wiki). Broken Sphere (Talk 14:44, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Blog posts for possible deletion
Off topic
 * User blog:Nicolerad5/My Puppies
 * User blog:KSI xLongShotz/Song parody challenge
 * User blog:Brony10/:)
 * User blog:Debopama/:D
 * User blog:Awesomeness20115/Badge
 * User blog:Clove2002/Lunch Tablez
 * User blog:Clove1999/New User
 * User blog:District11rue/Hunger Games/ My Hunger Games/ 1000 Hunger Games/ Please Help Me/ :)
 * User blog:Elviaalova/Dono if i will be on
 * User blog:Angry birds12/The big fight
 * User blog:BubblestheLlama/Tell me what you think
 * User_blog:Finnick999/Heyy

Promo
 * User blog:Cornelius Quakers/A Second Sight Wiki

Inflammatory
 * User blog:Fidofiderson/Hey wikia contributor

Thanks. Broken Sphere (Talk 16:12, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

91hg
91hg has not made a single constructive edit and has ignored 2 warnings. Broken Sphere (Talk 19:20, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Uncomfortable
Hi,

I'd like to bring to your attention that somebody on chat that id rather not specify has been hitting on me/ asking me if i want to date them and it's making me uncomfortable. I would like this to stop so please contact me on my talk page about this topic.

Thank you! Thresh45 20:31, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Community Portal
Hi, I took the liberty of revamping the community portal, I wanted to make sure it is alright before I actually move everything over there.

My revamped version is here. If it looks alright to you, I'll move it over to replace the community portal.

Thanks,<font face="X-Files" color="darkred">Lunix68 <font face="Terminator Two" color="darkgreen">Talk 23:36, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Message Wall?
Have you considered enabling message wall? Its basically a new and improved talk page, where you don't have to edit the page and instead leave messages similiar to leaving a comment, except there is a space for a subject heading given. Its easier to use, and since the message wall shows who left the message forgetting to sign messages wouldn't be a problem. I just thought it would be something to consider. Necterine411  Questions? Comments? Concerns?  23:53, April 12, 2012 (UTC)''

One of the reasons I asked was because another user brought it up. While I think it is easier to use, the points you brought up are valid. Should a blog be made asking other users what they think? Necterine411  Questions? Comments? Concerns?  02:19, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Why would you get rid of Districts from the Career districts. They are districts. And it would be nice if you answered my messages for once like a good admin would.Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 02:41, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

wiki css
I can't quite find the problem, so I suggest we ask a wiki staff member for help :)

<font face="X-Files" color="darkred">Lunix68 <font face="Terminator Two" color="darkgreen">Talk 03:21, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Rollback Rights
Hi TAP. Would you be able to grant me rollback rights? Thanks! that HATHAWAY runaway~  03:30, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

I know I do a lot more editing contributions that reverting vandalism, but I've done a fair bit in the past. My main focuses recently have been on making comprehensive edits to page. However, I will be doing some vandalism checking throughout the next few weeks. that HATHAWAY runaway~  03:41, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

I believe you are only looking at the first contributions on the page. I have made comprehensive edits to the Sponsorship, Avox, Stylists, Johanna Mason, Annie Cresta and Peeta Mellark pages, which you will see as you scroll down. And I do have an interest in making contributions here editing wise. that HATHAWAY runaway~  03:47, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

milly's mod
I know that Milly just got her mod taken away. As a user who is constantly on chat I believe that she really does deserve her mod. Just because she made a single mistake shouldn't result in her getting her mod taken away. I mean, none of us are perfect right? I think that maybe you should let her have like a trial period. And maybe go on chat and see how good of a chat mod that she really is.

I'm a dragon... RAWR! or Anneliese a.k.a. Annie a.k.a. the awesome one a.k.a. the one with the awesome sig a.k.a. her royal highness a.k.a. queen of the universe aka Iluvgale

I hardly think that Milly abused her right at all. She never bullied anyone out of chat or used having the status of chat mod as a threat to other users. I think that if you came on chat you'd actually understand what it's like as a chat mod and how Milly handles things. Since you appear to be on the wiki at the time I believe that you should come on chat so you can see what the chat is really like and see who Milly is really like due to the fact that she is on chat right now. Once again... Thanks for your consideration.

I'm a dragon... RAWR! or Anneliese a.k.a. Annie a.k.a. the awesome one a.k.a. the one with the awesome sig a.k.a. her royal highness a.k.a. queen of the universe aka Iluvgale

Milly...
I know that this probably isn't my place to say and I souldn't really be saying this as i'm neither important or and admin/mod but.... Milly deserves the right to be a mod, she has been ever since I've joined this wiki and she has always been helpful, kind and handles things well. I have never once seen her treat being kickbanned as a joke nor have I seen her using any mod rights that she had to bully people out of chat. And I also believe she would never do that. Come on chat and see for yourself how great she handles things and how everyone likes her. If she bullied people out of chat then why do so many people like her? Rainbow Shifter 06:58, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * After a long time, all of the admins have decided to remove her rights. No matter what people say, she will not get them back. There's absolutely no use of bobmarding TAP with messages about a lost cause because it is not going to happen. 07:00, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Admin requirements
After looking at the revised admin requirements I thought it might help to tighten them up further. Here are my ideas in the form of what could be put into the requirements section. If I did not address something there is no proposed change to the current wording.

Nominees must fulfill the following requirements to be eligible for consideration, with no exceptions. Nominations that fall short at the time of being put forward will be turned down.
 * Have been active on The Hunger Games Wiki for at least a month. This is more important than prior experience as an admin or long time editor on another wiki.
 * Have at least 100 edits in the main space which demonstrate efforts to improve and expand the wiki and/or fight vandalism. This can be verified via the Editcount function. Edits to the following do not count as part of the main space: your user page, user talk page messages, article talk page messages, blog posts, blog comments, and file uploads.

Feel free to accept, reject, or modify accordingly.

I also wanted to remind you about the minimum time that an unused file can be tagged for deletion as you have not yet answered this. Thanks! Broken Sphere (Talk 19:46, April 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think a week is a little too long. If someone uploads something they need to do something with it soon instead of leaving it to clutter the Wikia servers. How about 5 days? There could be a policy about images eventually.


 * Do you think 3 months is suitable? Two sounds odd to me for some reason but you also want to be sure that the user will stick around and is making a commitment. In this case the edit count requirement also goes up. Also it is not mentioned, but would it be helpful to mention grounds on which an admin can lose their position (resigning, long inactivity, abuse)? Broken Sphere  (Talk 20:51, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Chat
How about the question that everyone has been asking you? Why do you want to stop chat? It makes no sense. And I still have all the reasons that I said in the message before and I still have more. And don't be mad but I personally think you should let Haybernathy and Necterine deal with all chat problems for obvious reasons.Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 19:58, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

No I didn't read your and Haybernathy's conversation because that would be weird. And I think that even if you are just THINKING of closing down chat you should come on chat for a day or so and actually see for yourself what chat is like other than just going with what other people say. And also what do you mean "suitable situation with chat mods". All chat mods do a great job (and I'm including Milly in that). Milly didn't do anything, which you would no if you came on chat. Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 20:27, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I read your talk page and here is what i have to say. Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 20:49, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) User:Johanna Mason District 7 - She was on chat a total of ONE time and she took screen shots of Milly's comment's purposly because she knew that Milly would be sour towards her because Johanna called Milly a hoe bag (sorry for the language).
 * 2) User:Oblivion1001 - So I saw Oblivion came to you complaining about how Milly and Keap "bullied her to tears". Again like I said in the message to you before but you deleted, she came on chat and was having a mental breakdown or something. She was talking suicidal things and arguing with everybody who tried to calm her down. And now she wonder's why we don't want her on Pie Chat. She is unstable and needs to go to rehab or something for help with depression.
 * 3) User:BrokenSphere - I have not once seen this person on chat. And saying that it is getting "too social"? That makes no sense. What do you expect, when you have users who come on chat frequently do you just expect them to remain strangers or get to know each other? I can tell you that anybody who come's on chat often are now good friends unless they are always arguing with other users like Silentstabb, Oblivion, and TDR when he was still on this wiki.
 * 4) And as far as spammers and sockpuppets go, we have no control over what others do. So it is not our fault of what happens with spamming and sockpuppets. Yes, it would help with more mods but you took away one of the best mods you had, Milly. She didn't do anything wrong in my opinion. Johanna started the issues between the two by calling Milly a hoe bag which, I believe, made Johanna deserve what happened to her plus more.

You know what. I'm tired of arguing with you. I get it. Your a little stubborn and so am I so we are not gonna come to an agreement. So how about this. You go your way, and I'll go mine. From now on I will report any vandals or spammers to Haybernathy or Necterine and you can go back to making 15 edits a second. Okay? Good. Ravenclaw Eagles14!!!!! 21:12, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Links: Page - Catching Fire
Hi Tag Along Pam. This is a message regarding the links on the page listed above, and possibly all the book pages. There are links that 'double up'. Basically, all the main characters with links are in the character section as we know, but these links show up again when their names are mentioned in the three book parts. Should these be removed, or is it necessary to have two references to a character? Thanks for your time - that HATHAWAY  runaway~  23:36, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. I will still check the Catching Fire pages for links that pop up more than twice - that HATHAWAY  runaway~  00:14, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

supposed harassment
suppoedly, i was harassing somone on chat, and was banned forever, and i don understand i.. im confused... LylaGrace 00:49, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * You were harrassing Gale's Girl and Iluvgale. You were mostly insulting Gale's Girl by saying that she was stupid. You then said that you used to be an account called "IH8GalesGirl" but were banned by a b****. We don't allow bullying here, and for you to come on chat for the first time and say those things about any user is worth of an indefinite ban. 00:57, April 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I took pics. Sorry for the low quality though.

I'm a dragon... RAWR! or Anneliese a.k.a. Annie a.k.a. the awesome one a.k.a. the one with the awesome sig a.k.a. her royal highness a.k.a. queen of the universe aka Iluvgale

Well.... ouch. SO many peeps hate me...... ~ I prefer the boy with the snares~ 01:14, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Community discussion
Hi, I'm 888. :) I've been looking around the wiki and I've got a suggestion that I think will get everyone more involved. The wiki has forums, but they're not used very often. I think it would be a great idea to revamp the existing watercooler (rename it something more related to the universe, like "The Arena"), advertise it as a central location for suggestions for site improvements, and link to it in the site navigation. We do something similar on Avatar Wiki with our War Room and it's great for inclusive and democratic decision-making. The 888th Avatar   (talk)  07:17, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

"No Rights to Proceed?"
So in chat, I found out that my mod thingy wasnt appearing on the new format of the userpages. I tried to edit the box, maybe make the title longer so it could appear under, like some other users, but it say "I do not have rights to proceed". I tried logging out and in and none of it worked. Could you help me out and let me know whats going on? ~ I prefer the boy with the snares~ 12:33, April 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * It doesnt appear. The reason I care is when someone was spamming, they said i wasnt mod bc they couldnt see it on my page. ~ I prefer the boy with the snares~ 22:59, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yet another sock puppet
http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TeamPeetaBread/Still_Hating_Away

That girl lylagrace made another account.

I'm a dragon... RAWR! or Anneliese a.k.a. Annie a.k.a. the awesome one a.k.a. the one with the awesome sig a.k.a. her royal highness a.k.a. queen of the universe aka Iluvgale

Sockpuppet
Recenlty I've been on chat and there was a user who threatned Justafox and he got banned. Then he sockpuppeted and got banned again. He made another account and denied being a sockpuppet!

We have proof and a screencap of him saying he has more than one account. And yes, we do have witnesses. Please do something about this. Thank you.



Scarlett123 18:59, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Request for Rollback page
Hi, I was thinking a proper Rollback rights request page might help organize things a bi, along with seperating the Approved user rights request on each page, from the declined ones.

If you want, I could start working on the Rollback request page, and organize the admin page, and chat mod page to seperate the accepted from the declined :) -<font face="X-Files" color="darkred">Lunix68 <font face="Terminator Two" color="darkgreen">Talk 01:07, April 15, 2012 (UTC)